Monday Thoughts

7:45 pm Track star kicked off US team for refusing to wear Nike.

Shack is Back!!

I am very heartened by this response from Geoff Shackelford.  Take a look:


Okay, yes, it would have been nice if he had brought it up on air, but it is important to note he very much approves of the point.  So, all the people who have tried to belittle me when I have brought up the advantage Woods had in 2000 due to the Rock Ishii “transformational” golf ball (that no one else had at the time) are also in disagreement with the foremost expert on the topic of club- and ball-inflated distance in golf.

Let’s hope that Shack brings the matter up at some point in the future.

8:50 am Update: The Shack Report

I caught Shackelford’s segment on Morning Drive this morning and was taken aback by his reluctance to mention something pertaining to his pet cause: runaway golf equipment.  He was thrown a softball and failed to swing.

geofft7:45 am Update

Tip For Morning Drive:  No one watches morning drive for golf tips.  I don’t turn on ESPN Sports Center to learn how to hit a curveball or throw a spiral, and I don’t turn on Morning Drive to learn how to hit a six-iron from a downhill lie.

OWGR Watch:  Spieth trails Rory by just over a point.  That means a Jordan-Rory finish would allow Rory to hold onto No. 1.  A Jordan win or second, with Rory picking up no substantial points means Jordan would rise to No. 1.  Shane Lowry moved into the top 20.  Robert Streb moved into the top 40.  David Lingmerth in to the top 45.  Tiger Woods has fallen to #278.

Sunday Night

No. 18 at Whistling Straits:  I believe that hole is my favorite visual hole in the entire world.  I’m not sure the long and left part of the fairway will ever be used much, but it adds to the effect.

Make Me Pay:  Jordan Spieth has already made me send $300 to St. Jude Children’s Hospital this year, so I’ve been a little cautious about doing additional Make Me Pay tournaments.  (I don’t think I paid a penny last year until Rory won the British Open.)  As it it, I’m on the hook for another $300 should either Rory or Jordan win this week.  I hope they Make Me Pay.

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31 Responses to Monday Thoughts

  1. Sports-realist2 says:

    Most surprised by Justin Rose doing nothing on Sunday….Nothing being 4 bogies and 2 birdies….He usually seems more solid when he is in contention, but instead did his best Jim Furyk imitation….
    Really don’t understand Dustin Johnson, as Akron should be right up his alley….

  2. Ken says:

    If Woods doesn’t get his game turned around, expect the campaign to get the USGA to give him an exemption into the 2018 US Open to start early.

    They will. And they should, considering the exemptions given to past champions like Palmer, Watson, and Nicklaus. But it would be fun if they didn’t.

  3. Ken says:

    Bugs the heck out of me the way the WGC tournaments are treated as something special. They “as good as majors” if you believe the Tiger Woods sycophants.

    They’re no-cut, small-field events that really served no purpose in ever being created. There was no reason that these had to exist. The PGA and European Tour had the golf world covered quite well.

    The WGC events were at least somewhat inspired by a long-ago (mid-1990s) threat by Greg Norman to start a world golf tour. The PGA immediately fought back and a couple of years later the WGC concept came into being. It was a low-class move by Norman, who was made quite wealthy by the PGA/Euro/Australasian tour system that already existed. These tournaments ended up hurting some great traditional PGA tour stops like Bay Hill and Honda, since the top players adjusted their schedules for the WGC events. (Arnold’s prestige has helped Bay Hill prosper, but it had a couple of lean field years.)

    • lannyh says:

      I agree. They sound like a good idea, but they are a gimmick. The odds of a “star” winning are greater because few “no names” are invited, which allows the PR machine to push the meme that “only great players win these things.” Yeah, because they make up almost the entire field.

      Limited fields in golf lower the difficulty factor of winning way more than people who routinely dismiss “the unknowns” understand. Guys like Kisner and Lingmerth — and Lowry! — who just became ranked in top 50/64 are just about as likely to compete and win as the “stars.” And when they were ranked #100 and rising, they were just as tough.

      More and more I see these WGC limited-field events as closer to the Hero World Challenge and Nedbank than to real Tour events.

      Of course, this format ensures Mickelson and Woods are playing on the weekend — well, when they qualify!

      (And now they are pushing to give exemptions to Woods…)

      • TigerFan says:

        Keep on complaining about the Rock Ishii ball. It was USGA conforming so you and anyone else that chooses to go down that road, doesn’t have a leg to stand on.

      • lannyh says:

        And why not? I’m not claiming it was illegal. I’m just pointing out that the “dominant Tiger” of 2000 was due to the Rock Ishii ball. Nobilo and Shackelford are in agreement that the ball was a factor.

      • TruthTeller says:

        Yeah, ensures a star wins, like Shane Lowry.

      • lannyh says:

        Can you f—ing read? At what level, second grade?

      • TigerFan says:

        If the ball truely created that much of an advantage, there’s a damn good chance it would have been illegal. Besides, that “type” of ball was around in the mid 90’s so if a player wasn’t using it, that’s on them.

        Of course, there’s also the fact that he generated 10 MPH more club head speed than the average pro so…..that could be part of the reason he was 20-30 yards longer off the tee.

      • lannyh says:

        You’ve said this half a dozen times, and each time I’ve patiently answered, so obviously, at this point, you are intentionally lying.

        To claim the ProV1 type ball was available in the mid-90’s marks you as a very stupid man. Nike gave Woods their version in early 2000; Titleist’s were not made until December of 2000. You are lying, and you are knowingly lying.

        Seriously, friend, you need to stop wasting everyone’s time with your nonsense. Take it to; they are more your speed.

      • TruthTeller says:

        No, 4th grade thank you very much

      • TigerFan says:

        I’m not the one that said “that type” ball was available in the 90’s. It was Stuart Appleby that said it.

      • lannyh says:

        No, he said solid core balls were available then. We all know that. But, as Rock Ishii points out, they were not consistently straight, so most pros shunned them.

        Again, you are boring the shit out of me with your repetitive nonsense. We’ve had this identical conversation three or four times now. Is that supposed to be fun?

      • TigerFan says:

        No….you’re right….stupidity isn’t fun…..but you seem to be great at it…..which is pretty freakin’ annoying……which is why I have too repeatedly correct you.

        You claim to be the only voice that matters so someone has to make sure it’s actually correct.

      • Ken says:

        Lanny is doing something right, Tigerfan. You’re “freakin” annoyed, yet you come back for more.

      • TigerFan says:

        Just ’cause its annoying doesn’t mean it’s not hilarious at the same time.

  4. Ace says:

    Speaking of golf balls has there ever been an in-depth discussion here regarding the “magic re-appearing ball” of Tiger Woods on #18 in the playoff against Bob May at the PGA? I’m kind of new here so my apologies if this has already been covered.

    • Houdini says:

      It’s been mentioned, and a lot of hypotheses, but it’s pretty clear Tiger had some assistance from the crowd who clearly helped him cheat

    • Ken says:

      I believe it was at Firestone in 2006 where Woods hit his ball over the clubhouse. It was never found but they gave him a ruling claiming that it wasn’t out of bounds. Rather than re-hitting from where he was and probably being lucky to get double bogey, he was given an incredibly favorable drop. He had a great chance at par. I don’t remember if he made the par, or a bogey.

      Next to the rock being moved for him by fans (at his request) in the Arizona desert, this is my favorite Woods travesty.

      The ball was never found. They decided that some waiter must have run off with it.

      • lannyh says:

        Oh, and there is the one Stephanie Wei was at, where some guy said, “twelve guys gathered around Woods’s ball, then they all took off running in different directions, and one of them must have taken the ball.”

        Woods got a free drop.

    • Jason says:

      I just commented the other day on this. Had Bob May won that event, his life would be so much different…unfair.

  5. Ace says:

    What I remember most is the lack of inquiry by any of the officials on the scene. It appeared no spectators were asked what they saw, if anything. But this is what should be expected at the PGA Championship. As I said earlier they botch something seemingly every year and I’m sure the 2015 installment will be no different. To me the PGA has always kind of been that “other” major for a reason.

    • TruthTeller says:

      Yeah, I’m sure they’ll find a way to gift it to Rory or Jordan this time around.

    • lannyh says:

      I didn’t have any recollection of it at all. I watched it a couple of weeks ago. I am not convinced the guy did anything wrong. It was weird, but it looked like a typical person trying to get near the ball for the next shot. I would not rule it out, but, if forced to vote, I’d vote that he didn’t do anything wrong. A person who knew the terrain could probably give much better input.

  6. Ace says:

    No 100% proof but it was fishy at best. The guy is standing beside the tall weeds where the ball would have been clearly unplayable, disappears behind the weeds for a few seconds then comes out chasing the ball down the dirt path. Where was the ball immediately before he began chasing it? My guess it was in his right hand. There was also a tournament maybe a couple years ago where Woods hit a ball into the gallery that was never found. He was permitted to drop the ball without penalty where a spectator said the ball was. Anyone remember this?

    • lannyh says:

      You are probably thinking of the one I call the Stephanie Wei one. One guy came up way after the fact with a very questionable story. And no one else saw what he claimed.

  7. JoseyWales says:

    Shackelford is now part of the mainstream media you despise: Golf Channel, Golf Digest, Golf World…and he is in bed with Callaway…don’t become part of the herd of cattle he feeds.

    • lannyh says:

      He may have turned over a new leaf. His response showed he discounts Woods’s 2000 “dominance.”

      You might want to give this new Geoff Shackelford another chance.

  8. Jason says:

    Hi Lanny. It’s great that some of the main stream golf pundits are taking notice of you and are commonly responding to you these days. I feel like one of those kids who follows an unknown band, and then gets to brag because they knew of them first!

    “I saw Lanny play at the local pub before he was selling out shows”.

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